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== Box drop research ==
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=== Normal boxes ===
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%"
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! colspan="2" | Item type !! LV C !! LV B !! LV A !! LV S !! LV S2 !! LV S3
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|-
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! rowspan="18" | Mats. !! {{Metal icon}}
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| [[Slaterian]] || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?
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|-
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! {{Metal icon}}
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| {{JP item}} | [[Teranite]] || ? || ? || ? || {{JP item}} | [[Teranite]] || ?
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|-
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! {{Metal icon}}
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| [[Harnium]] || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?
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|-
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! {{Metal icon}}
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| [[Soldonium]] || [[Soldonium]] || ? || ? || ? || ?
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|-
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! {{Metal icon}}
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| [[Stelnium]] || [[Stelnium]] || ? || ? || {{JP item}} | [[Stelnium]] || ?
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|-
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! {{Metal icon}}
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| ? || ? || ? || ? || {{JP item}} | [[Catilium]] || ?
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|-
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! {{Metal icon}}
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| [[Chicotite]] || {{JP item}} | [[Chicotite]] || ? || ? || {{JP item}} | [[Chicotite]] || ?
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|-
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! {{Metal icon}}
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| [[Cyral]] || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?
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|-
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! {{Biomaterial icon}}
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| ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?
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|-
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! {{Hard material icon}}
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| ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?
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|-
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! {{Hard material icon}}
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| ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?
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|-
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! {{Hard material icon}}
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| ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?
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|-
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! {{Hard material icon}}
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| ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?
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|-
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! {{Gemstone icon}}
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| ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?
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|-
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! {{Wood icon}}
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| ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?
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|-
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! {{Wood icon}}
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| ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?
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|-
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! {{Wood icon}}
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| ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?
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|-
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! {{Wood icon}}
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| [[Kubara Wood]] || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?
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|-
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! rowspan="1" | Deco. !! {{Decoration icon}}
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| ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?
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|}
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=== Clear boxes ===
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%"
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! colspan="2" | Item type !! LV C !! LV B !! LV A !! LV S !! LV S2 !! LV S3
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|-
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! rowspan="6" | Wpns. !! {{Shotgun icon}}
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| [[Shigga Stam]] || [[Shigga Brada]] || [[Shigga Bines]] || [[Shigga Bines]] || [[Shigga Baret]] || ?
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|-
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! {{Grenade icon}}
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| [[Gur Neda]] || [[Gur Napam]] || [[Gur Missal]] || [[Gur Missal]] || [[Gur Asted]] || ?
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|-
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! {{Twin handgun icon}}
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| [[Arb Magana]] || [[Arb Magana]] || [[Arb Biso]] || [[Arb Biso]] || [[Arb Boa]] || ?
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|-
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! {{Handgun icon}}
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| [[B'duki Magana]] || [[B'duki Magana]] || [[B'duki Biso]] || [[B'duki Biso]] || [[B'duki Boa]] || ?
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|-
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! {{Crossbow icon}}
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| [[Cubo Upinde]] || [[Cubo Dunga]] || [[Cubo Mamba]] || [[Cubo Mamba]] || [[Cubo Tuma]] || ?
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|-
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! {{Machinegun icon}}
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| [[Magga S'bina]] || [[Magga S'bina]] || [[Magga Draga]] || [[Magga Draga]] || [[Magga Guin]] || ?
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|-
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! rowspan="11" | Mats. !! {{Metal icon}}
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| [[Harnium]] || [[Harnium]] || ? || ? || ? || ?
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|-
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! {{Metal icon}}
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| [[Soldonium]] || [[Soldonium]] || {{JP item}} | [[Soldonium]] || {{JP item}} | [[Soldonium]] || {{JP item}} | [[Soldonium]] || ?
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|-
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! {{Metal icon}}
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| ? || ? || {{JP item}} | [[Stelnium]] || {{JP item}} | [[Stelnium]] || {{JP item}} | [[Stelnium]] || ?
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|-
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! {{Metal icon}}
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| ? || ? || {{JP item}} | [[Catilium]] || {{JP item}} | [[Catilium]] || {{JP item}} | [[Catilium]] || ?
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|-
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! {{Biomaterial icon}}
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| ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?
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|-
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! {{Hard material icon}}
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| ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?
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|-
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! {{Hard material icon}}
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| ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?
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|-
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! {{Hard material icon}}
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| ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?
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|-
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! {{Hard material icon}}
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| ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?
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|-
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! {{Gemstone icon}}
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| ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?
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|-
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! {{Wood icon}}
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| [[Kubara Wood]] || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?
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|-
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! rowspan="1" | Deco. !! {{Decoration icon}}
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| ? || ? || ? || ? || ? || ?
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|-
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! rowspan="6" | {{Board icon}} !! {{Shotgun icon}}
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| [B] [[Shigga Stam]] || [B] [[Shigga Brada]] || [B] [[Shigga Bines]] || [B] [[Shigga Bines]] || [B] [[Shigga Baret]] || ?
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|-
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! {{Grenade icon}}
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| [B] [[Gur Neda]] || [B] [[Gur Napam]] || [B] [[Gur Missal]] || [B] [[Gur Missal]] || [B] [[Gur Asted]] || ?
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|-
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! {{Twin handgun icon}}
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| [B] [[Arb Magana]] || [B] [[Arb Magana]] || [B] [[Arb Biso]] || [B] [[Arb Biso]] || [B] [[Arb Boa]] || ?
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|-
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! {{Handgun icon}}
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| [B] [[B'duki Magana]] || [B] [[B'duki Magana]] || [B] [[B'duki Biso]] || [B] [[B'duki Biso]] || [B] [[B'duki Boa]] || ?
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|-
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! {{Crossbow icon}}
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| [B] [[Cubo Upinde]] || [B] [[Cubo Dunga]] || [B] [[Cubo Mamba]] || [B] [[Cubo Mamba]] || [B] [[Cubo Tuma]] || ?
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|-
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! {{Machinegun icon}}
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| [B] [[Magga S'bina]] || [B] [[Magga S'bina]] || [B] [[Magga Draga]] || [B] [[Magga Draga]] || [B] [[Magga Guin]] || ?
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|}
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== Clear box research ==
 
== Clear box research ==
 
I don't know why, but I've taken a major interest in the clear boxes of this mission.  I'd like to conduct a little research to confirm patterns of item drops based on weapon category vs. mission difficulty.  Items listed in normal-colored cells are confirmed through various reports to drop in this mission.  Blue cells represent assumptions and red cells are for unknowns.
 
I don't know why, but I've taken a major interest in the clear boxes of this mission.  I'd like to conduct a little research to confirm patterns of item drops based on weapon category vs. mission difficulty.  Items listed in normal-colored cells are confirmed through various reports to drop in this mission.  Blue cells represent assumptions and red cells are for unknowns.
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! {{Grenade icon}}
 
! {{Grenade icon}}
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| [[Gur Neda]] || [[Gur Napam]] || {{Unreleased item}} | ? || [[Gur Missal]] || [[Gur Asted]]
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| [[Gur Neda]] || [[Gur Napam]] || [[Gur Missal]] || [[Gur Missal]] || [[Gur Asted]]
 
|-
 
|-
 
! {{Twin handgun icon}}
 
! {{Twin handgun icon}}
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| [[Arb Magana]] || [[Arb Magana]] || {{Unreleased item}} | ? || {{JP item}} | [[Arb Biso]] || [[Arb Boa]]
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| [[Arb Magana]] || [[Arb Magana]] || [[Arb Biso]] || [[Arb Biso]] || [[Arb Boa]]
 
|-
 
|-
 
! {{Handgun icon}}
 
! {{Handgun icon}}
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| [[B'duki Magana]] || {{JP item}} | [[B'duki Magana]] || {{Unreleased item}} | ? || {{JP item}} | [[B'duki Biso]] || [[B'duki Boa]]
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| [[B'duki Magana]] || [[B'duki Magana]] || [[B'duki Biso]] || [[B'duki Biso]] || [[B'duki Boa]]
 
|-
 
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! {{Crossbow icon}}
 
! {{Crossbow icon}}
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|-
 
! {{Machinegun icon}}
 
! {{Machinegun icon}}
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| [[Magga S'bina]] || {{JP item}} | [[Magga S'bina]] || [[Magga Draga]] || {{Unreleased item}} | ? || [[Magga Guin]]
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| [[Magga S'bina]] || [[Magga S'bina]] || [[Magga Draga]] || [[Magga Draga]] || [[Magga Guin]]
 
|-
 
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! rowspan="6" | Boa-<br/>rds !! {{Shotgun icon}}
 
! rowspan="6" | Boa-<br/>rds !! {{Shotgun icon}}
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|-
 
|-
 
! {{Grenade icon}}
 
! {{Grenade icon}}
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| [B] [[Gur Neda]] || [B] [[Gur Napam]] || {{Unreleased item}} | ? || [B] [[Gur Missal]] || [B] [[Gur Asted]]
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| [B] [[Gur Neda]] || [B] [[Gur Napam]] || [B] [[Gur Missal]] || [B] [[Gur Missal]] || [B] [[Gur Asted]]
 
|-
 
|-
 
! {{Twin handgun icon}}
 
! {{Twin handgun icon}}
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| [B] [[Arb Magana]] || {{JP item}} | [B] [[Arb Magana]] || {{Unreleased item}} | ? || [B] [[Arb Biso]] || [B] [[Arb Boa]]
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| [B] [[Arb Magana]] || [B] [[Arb Magana]] || [B] [[Arb Biso]] || [B] [[Arb Biso]] || [B] [[Arb Boa]]
 
|-
 
|-
 
! {{Handgun icon}}
 
! {{Handgun icon}}
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| {{JP item}} | [B] [[B'duki Magana]] || {{JP item}} | [B] [[B'duki Magana]] || {{Unreleased item}} | ? || [B] [[B'duki Biso]] || [B] [[B'duki Boa]]
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| [B] [[B'duki Magana]] || [B] [[B'duki Magana]] || [B] [[B'duki Biso]] || [B] [[B'duki Biso]] || [B] [[B'duki Boa]]
 
|-
 
|-
 
! {{Crossbow icon}}
 
! {{Crossbow icon}}
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| [B] [[Cubo Upinde]] || [B] [[Cubo Dunga]] || {{JP item}} | [B] [[Cubo Mamba]] || [B] [[Cubo Mamba]] || [B] [[Cubo Tuma]]
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| [B] [[Cubo Upinde]] || [B] [[Cubo Dunga]] || [B] [[Cubo Mamba]] || [B] [[Cubo Mamba]] || [B] [[Cubo Tuma]]
 
|-
 
|-
 
! {{Machinegun icon}}
 
! {{Machinegun icon}}
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| [B] [[Magga S'bina]] || [B] [[Magga S'bina]] || {{JP item}} | [B] [[Magga Draga]] || {{Unreleased item}} | ? || [B] [[Magga Guin]]
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| [B] [[Magga S'bina]] || [B] [[Magga S'bina]] || [B] [[Magga Draga]] || [B] [[Magga Draga]] || [B] [[Magga Guin]]
 
|}
 
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If you can confirm anything in blue or help us identify what should be in a red cell, please feel free to add it to the mission's drop chart as well as update this chart accordingly. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 12:29, 5 November 2008 (CST)
 
If you can confirm anything in blue or help us identify what should be in a red cell, please feel free to add it to the mission's drop chart as well as update this chart accordingly. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 12:29, 5 November 2008 (CST)
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* I had been noticing some patterns as far as clear boxes go.  It would be really great if we could get them down.  I'm sure this will be something very interesting to pour some time into.  It reminds me of when Tycho setup a site to get the rebalanced drops figured out for PSO Episode 4.  Good setup for the bosses chart too.  [[User:S-T-H|S-T-H]] 18:38, 5 November 2008 (CST)
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** I only wish all clear and boss boxes had patterns as easily predictable as this one.  :lol:  I'd actually like to set up charts like this for each mission to help confirm drops.  I might do more later, just sticking them on the mission's respective talk page.  And if I get a chance tonight, I'd like to do some more Bladed Legacy.  I've been trying to get the Gohmas to drop their weapon/board, but I haven't had a bit of luck.  (And I have a feeling the Magga Bar reported from the Methna at the JP wiki might be a mistake.  It may belong to the Dilla... or maybe not.  Hopefully I can find out soon.)  Anyway, if I do, I'll likely be able to confirm more clear box drops in the process. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 21:13, 5 November 2008 (CST)
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*** That is very odd.  I haven't really checked recently, but do you know of any other enemies missing data like this?  Maybe there is an issue (I doubt they wouldn't drop anything at all).  [[User:S-T-H|S-T-H]] 21:22, 5 November 2008 (CST)
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**** Nothing comes to mind immediately.  In the case of these guys, it has crossed my mind that their low-level drops could be screwed up, but I keep telling myself that they just have abysmal drop rates.  XD - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 22:37, 5 November 2008 (CST)
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* It would appear that the patterns are pretty cut and dry on this one.  A and S even share the same drops.  --[[User:S-T-H|S-T-H]] 21:28, 2 May 2009 (CDT)

Latest revision as of 16:16, 5 March 2011

Box drop research

Normal boxes

Item type LV C LV B LV A LV S LV S2 LV S3
Mats. Metal Slaterian  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Metal Teranite  ?  ?  ? Teranite  ?
Metal Harnium  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Metal Soldonium Soldonium  ?  ?  ?  ?
Metal Stelnium Stelnium  ?  ? Stelnium  ?
Metal  ?  ?  ?  ? Catilium  ?
Metal Chicotite Chicotite  ?  ? Chicotite  ?
Metal Cyral  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Biomaterial  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Hard material  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Hard material  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Hard material  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Hard material  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Gemstone  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Wood  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Wood  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Wood  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Wood Kubara Wood  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Deco. Room decoration  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?

Clear boxes

Item type LV C LV B LV A LV S LV S2 LV S3
Wpns.
Shotguns
 Shigga Stam Shigga Brada Shigga Bines Shigga Bines Shigga Baret  ?
Grenades
 Gur Neda Gur Napam Gur Missal Gur Missal Gur Asted  ?
Twin handguns
 Arb Magana Arb Magana Arb Biso Arb Biso Arb Boa  ?
Handguns
 B'duki Magana B'duki Magana B'duki Biso B'duki Biso B'duki Boa  ?
Crossbows
 Cubo Upinde Cubo Dunga Cubo Mamba Cubo Mamba Cubo Tuma  ?
Machineguns
 Magga S'bina Magga S'bina Magga Draga Magga Draga Magga Guin  ?
Mats. Metal Harnium Harnium  ?  ?  ?  ?
Metal Soldonium Soldonium Soldonium Soldonium Soldonium  ?
Metal  ?  ? Stelnium Stelnium Stelnium  ?
Metal  ?  ? Catilium Catilium Catilium  ?
Biomaterial  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Hard material  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Hard material  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Hard material  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Hard material  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Gemstone  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Wood Kubara Wood  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Deco. Room decoration  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Synthesis board
Shotguns
 [B] Shigga Stam [B] Shigga Brada [B] Shigga Bines [B] Shigga Bines [B] Shigga Baret  ?
Grenades
 [B] Gur Neda [B] Gur Napam [B] Gur Missal [B] Gur Missal [B] Gur Asted  ?
Twin handguns
 [B] Arb Magana [B] Arb Magana [B] Arb Biso [B] Arb Biso [B] Arb Boa  ?
Handguns
 [B] B'duki Magana [B] B'duki Magana [B] B'duki Biso [B] B'duki Biso [B] B'duki Boa  ?
Crossbows
 [B] Cubo Upinde [B] Cubo Dunga [B] Cubo Mamba [B] Cubo Mamba [B] Cubo Tuma  ?
Machineguns
 [B] Magga S'bina [B] Magga S'bina [B] Magga Draga [B] Magga Draga [B] Magga Guin  ?

Clear box research

I don't know why, but I've taken a major interest in the clear boxes of this mission. I'd like to conduct a little research to confirm patterns of item drops based on weapon category vs. mission difficulty. Items listed in normal-colored cells are confirmed through various reports to drop in this mission. Blue cells represent assumptions and red cells are for unknowns.

Category Difficulty C Difficulty B Difficulty A Difficulty S Difficulty S2
Wea-
pons
Shotguns
 Shigga Stam Shigga Brada Shigga Bines Shigga Bines Shigga Baret
Grenades
 Gur Neda Gur Napam Gur Missal Gur Missal Gur Asted
Twin handguns
 Arb Magana Arb Magana Arb Biso Arb Biso Arb Boa
Handguns
 B'duki Magana B'duki Magana B'duki Biso B'duki Biso B'duki Boa
Crossbows
 Cubo Upinde Cubo Dunga Cubo Mamba Cubo Mamba Cubo Tuma
Machineguns
 Magga S'bina Magga S'bina Magga Draga Magga Draga Magga Guin
Boa-
rds
Shotguns
 [B] Shigga Stam [B] Shigga Brada [B] Shigga Bines [B] Shigga Bines [B] Shigga Baret
Grenades
 [B] Gur Neda [B] Gur Napam [B] Gur Missal [B] Gur Missal [B] Gur Asted
Twin handguns
 [B] Arb Magana [B] Arb Magana [B] Arb Biso [B] Arb Biso [B] Arb Boa
Handguns
 [B] B'duki Magana [B] B'duki Magana [B] B'duki Biso [B] B'duki Biso [B] B'duki Boa
Crossbows
 [B] Cubo Upinde [B] Cubo Dunga [B] Cubo Mamba [B] Cubo Mamba [B] Cubo Tuma
Machineguns
 [B] Magga S'bina [B] Magga S'bina [B] Magga Draga [B] Magga Draga [B] Magga Guin

If you can confirm anything in blue or help us identify what should be in a red cell, please feel free to add it to the mission's drop chart as well as update this chart accordingly. - EspioKaos 12:29, 5 November 2008 (CST)

  • I had been noticing some patterns as far as clear boxes go. It would be really great if we could get them down. I'm sure this will be something very interesting to pour some time into. It reminds me of when Tycho setup a site to get the rebalanced drops figured out for PSO Episode 4. Good setup for the bosses chart too. S-T-H 18:38, 5 November 2008 (CST)
    • I only wish all clear and boss boxes had patterns as easily predictable as this one.  :lol: I'd actually like to set up charts like this for each mission to help confirm drops. I might do more later, just sticking them on the mission's respective talk page. And if I get a chance tonight, I'd like to do some more Bladed Legacy. I've been trying to get the Gohmas to drop their weapon/board, but I haven't had a bit of luck. (And I have a feeling the Magga Bar reported from the Methna at the JP wiki might be a mistake. It may belong to the Dilla... or maybe not. Hopefully I can find out soon.) Anyway, if I do, I'll likely be able to confirm more clear box drops in the process. - EspioKaos 21:13, 5 November 2008 (CST)
      • That is very odd. I haven't really checked recently, but do you know of any other enemies missing data like this? Maybe there is an issue (I doubt they wouldn't drop anything at all). S-T-H 21:22, 5 November 2008 (CST)
        • Nothing comes to mind immediately. In the case of these guys, it has crossed my mind that their low-level drops could be screwed up, but I keep telling myself that they just have abysmal drop rates. XD - EspioKaos 22:37, 5 November 2008 (CST)
  • It would appear that the patterns are pretty cut and dry on this one. A and S even share the same drops. --S-T-H 21:28, 2 May 2009 (CDT)
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