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== Luck affecting elemental % ==
There's no proof of this at all, so I've reverted the article to before these edits were made. If this information is true, please produce some evidence of it, and by evidence I don't mean 'well I synthed a 50% weapon on a luck 3 day'. Thanks. [[User:Mewn|Mewn]] 06:19, 21 January 2007 (CST)
*I can do some experements for yah on this over the next few days. I hope it's true.[[User:Rydia|Rydia]] 22:53, 3 April 2007 (BST)
** Test concluded(kidna): The elements seems to be random. On Rydia, I got a 10% dark, and on Bliss, I got 28% Holy (I'm not on bliss so I forgot o.O). I'll run 2 more tests real fast.[[User:Rydia|Rydia]] 05:28, 4 April 2007 (BST)
*** My last test is concluded. It's Purly random. Rydia had a 18% Holy, and Bliss had a 12% Holy. [[User:Rydia|Rydia]] 05:52, 4 April 2007 (BST)
**** That's no way to be conclusive, unfortunately. What if Lv.0 luck had a 1% chance of synthing all elements from 10% to 44%, and a ~80% chance of synthing a 50%? Of course that's nigh-impossible, but your testing doesn't even disprove that. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 07:48, 4 April 2007 (BST)
*** ChinChu (Rydia's Pm) has a Mind lv 85 and nothing else. Bliss' Pm has 0 stats at all and the resolts came out rather spuratic. Also, Rydia's luck was +1 and Bliss had +0 luck. I'm just not seeing any kinda pattern here =\[[User:Rydia|Rydia]] 09:10, 4 April 2007 (BST)
**** Point being that "not seeing a pattern" is as inconclusive as one person "seeing a pattern" by doing on synth on a Lv.3 day and getting a 50%. What the playerbase as a whole already knew is much suggestion that Photon Fortune and elemental strength are not related, but that doesn't mean "well I did four synths and look" is any kind of proof. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 18:49, 4 April 2007 (BST)

== PM Luck? ==

*Private Machinery Luck? Does such a thing exist? Today, my (Sword) PM has a Luck level of 3. Should we add on a  new column for PMs?
* Well, they do have it. Not even sure why, but anyway, they use the same Luck as female Casts. ^^; - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]]
*Does it effect synthesis rates? --[[User:Shadus|Shadus]] 01:25, 27 November 2006 (PST)
* No, PM luck is useless. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 04:06, 28 November 2006 (PST)

== Stuff ==
*That is awesome! They finally made luck into what is was always suposed to be! Ok, so basically, your character gets the same amount of luck for the whole day? That's nice :D Is it sure that it affects item synth and stuff like that?
*From what I know, it doesn't affect synthesis. I'll add the grinding tables though. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]]
*If I've heard correctly, PMs are always considered female Casts for the purposes of Luck. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 23:18, 20 November 2006 (PST)

== Not-so-random item distribution? ==
*This may or may not be false, but it's an idea that's flew into my head after doing
quite a few mission with one friend with item distribution on "set random." On many and many of those missions, the rare item picked up seems to have slight favor towards the player with higher luck level. On a few missions, my friend would would have luck level one, and I would have no luck, and if 3 rares appeared, he'd get 2 in a row. a couple quests, he got them all. This didn't seem to just favor him, as on a day where I had a luck level and he did not, I seemed to get most of the rares. This doesn't seem to be noticeable when playing with more members, like 4-6, as there are many more members for the rare to pick. I've noticed this only when playing with 2-3 members. Another interesting note, whenever I did get the rare item in a low-luck situation, it would often be a fairly common rare item, such as Kubara Wood, or a synth board for MoonX or Star Atomizer. Sorry if that was a bit too long, just an idea to throw out there. User: ~Teh
* Interesting.. o_O; - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 22:52, 23 November 2006 (PST)
* ^Thanks for giving that a section, didn't mean to clutter up you page. >.>; Anyway yeah, this idea is something I'm going to eventually test, since it's obviousley recieved much speculation. ~Teh
* Hm, the Japanese pages on Luck actually seem to deny this. I'm wondering how much Luck can affect the map variations (rare enemies) though. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 23:09, 26 November 2006 (PST)
* the luck affecting random item distribution should be removed, in all honesty it's random, luck of the draw kind of thing. following the same idea, you'd think it would be more noticable on normal items set to random?

==Universal Luck==
* It seems apparent that Luck is universal accross all shards - JP PC/PS2 Worlds 1 and 2, EN PC/PS2 and Xbox 360 all seem to have the same Luck as the others every day. This brings about two points of interest for this part of PSUPedia:
** There was definitely known Luck on the 24th for the PC/PS2 servers which is currently unrecorded on this site. Using JP records it would be possible to "recover" these.
** Considering JP's servers are 17 hours ahead of the EN servers, a "Tomorrow's Luck" section for PSUPedia becomes viable.
*: Thoughts on all this? - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 17:46, 16 November 2006 (PST)
* Oh crap, you're actually right. I hadn't looked into the issue anymore ever since due to mistakes the 10-25 entry was listed differently. Awesome stuff. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 00:07, 17 November 2006 (PST)
* I'm in a bit of a hurry, but I've tried to adapt the templates. Satisfactory, or would it be better in a different way? - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 00:45, 17 November 2006 (PST)
* Lookin' fine. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 04:35, 17 November 2006 (PST)
*: Actually two things have just come to my attention:
** For the link to tomorrow's Luck's source, "http://humako.is.land.to/luck/" is sufficient. The link is redundant beyond that.
** The edit link for Luck on the Main Page uses http://psupedia.org as opposed to http://www.psupedia.org, which has the effect of not considering me logged in anymore :/
*: The latter might be fixable at my end but for now it's somewhat annoying. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 04:42, 17 November 2006 (PST)
* Okay, fixed. On a sidenote, anyone should be able to improve the templates, right? - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 09:16, 17 November 2006 (PST)
* Probably. But that assumes I knew how! The table itself contains no discernable formatting so - likely with the room decoration tables - it's something setting elsewhere I need to learn how to find. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 14:39, 17 November 2006 (PST)

== Photon Fortune ==

no one who calls luck photon fortune. while yeah fortune is a loose translation of the word luck, and photons seem to be everywhere inside the fabric of the game, this translation terribly sucks. I hope whoever thought of this didn't pull it from a google translation, because thats more of a dictionary, not a translatior. Kind of like translating the "common cold" into "freezing commonly".
* Regardless of whether it sucks or not, it's the official translation (taken from the manual, I caught it while glancing at it this morning), and takes it's place along with Vullseye and Moon Atomizer X and the rest. [[User:Mewn|Mewn]]
** For anyone who cares, my source - 'Also, a Photon Fortune icon will be displayed next to the text. It is said that there will be a divine protection of some sort, depending on the way it shines, and as it shines more brightly, higher effects can be expected.' - bottom of page 14 in the US manual. [[User:Mewn|Mewn]]
*** thanks for explaining where it came from. makes more sense now i suppose. "who has photon fortune today?" you know, it just might catch on!
* Added a note about the more popular term in the article. It's fine to stick with the old one, and the old page still redirects at least; formally we shouldn't really stay behind on official translations though. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 03:33, 3 December 2006 (PST)
* While I don't mind that we're going with the "official" translation, there've been complaints that it's made the table on the Main Page that much wider. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 05:16, 3 December 2006 (PST)
**I think the table looks nice. Would be funny to use the gifs instead of numbers, but that's more work then needed. (side note: Boy, the Photon Fortune really bit yesterday.)[[User:Rydia|Rydia]] 07:36, 3 December 2006 (PST)
***When did I say anything to do with gifs? Fact of the matter is that "About Luck" takes up more width than "About Photon Fortune" and as a result the entire table has become wider, which has caused some complaint. Resultantly I've removed the "About Photon Fortune" link and placed the link to the article in the header of the table. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 08:57, 3 December 2006 (PST)
****I didn't say you was, I said it'd be funny, and kinda neat, but it's too much trouble to continusly update. [[User:Rydia|Rydia]] 10:54, 3 December 2006 (PST)
*****Oh! Haha. My bad. Misread what you'd said. Actually with conditional formatting it could probably be done, but it'd probably be less useful than just giving the numbers. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 12:18, 3 December 2006 (PST)
****heheh it's ok ^_^ I'm wondering.. Think the Log can be splint into months? After 1 month is done, branch into a new one. Would make load times a lil better then loading a 3 month page or bigger.[[User:Rydia|Rydia]] 12:33, 3 December 2006 (PST)
***** Yeah, shouldn't be that hard. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 14:41, 3 December 2006 (PST)

== Main Page boxes ==
* [[User_talk:SAsim#De_Ragnus|I made two templates for the main page]], so you can imagine if I were to put a Photon Fortune template below. I tried to fit the luck [http://psupedia.org/index.php?title=Image:Luck_head.PNG|Luck head] on the top but then the boxes become smaller and they expand all the way to the right. Then I tried to make it like the other two, which failed. If I can get it to work, which I think I can with time, I'll need another template to put to the right of that and I have no idea what content we can put in there. For now I can make a new headline image for the Photon Fortune one, but I'm not sure if you guys want to keep the size that way; with the new main page we could aim for even bigger, because we need another fourth template for something. I would prefer it we keep the height of the headline as big as the ones for my templates, just to be consistent. [[User:SAsim|Asim]] 08:28, 3 December 2006 (PST)

== Crazy Statistics? ==
* Just wondering if this is viable. I've been rattling off various Luck statistics in the IRC channel for a while now, so I figured it might be an idea to include such things here. Examples would include:
** '''Longest Streak of Lv.0:''' FHu, 9 days.
** '''Shortest Streak of Lv.0:''' MBe and FBe, 4 days (once), MCa, 4 days (twice).
** '''Longest Streak of no Lv.3:''' MCa, 41 days (and counting. 41st day is 12/14/2006.) Recently broke MNe's 39 days.
** '''Shortest Streak of no Lv.3:''' FNe, 11 days (and counting. 11th day is 12/14/2006.)
** '''Currently been waiting longest for a Lv.3:''' MCa, since 11/03.
*: Thoughts? - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 00:34, 14 December 2006 (PST)

* I dunno. Aren't the different pages and scripts on http://p.netgamers.jp/pf/ sufficient for research on the Luck patterns (which I personally believe are just random and will not be figured out in any way but by hacking the servers)? - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 05:37, 14 December 2006 (PST)

* Since when did I say this was for "finding out patterns"? I've always been convinced there'll never be a pattern to Photon Fortune. I just figured "interesting stats" just for the sake of it might be a good idea. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 15:41, 14 December 2006 (PST)
*: P.S. 8th day of Lv.0 for MNe tomorrow. Looks like we're gonna break the Lv.0 streak record.
* Okay, go ahead. - [[User:Tycho|Tycho]] 10:13, 15 December 2006 (PST)
* Longest Streak of Lv.0 is now MBe, 12 days (12/28/06 - 01/08/07)
*: Whoever you are, Mr. Unsigned-Edit, you're wrong for the English servers because of the 31st of December bug. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 06:15, 21 January 2007 (CST)

== Partner Character/PM Luck ==

I was doing the third PSU Episode 2 Mission, and Laia has 3-Star luck. Every enemy she hit, they dropped a Rod (Or, it could be all the sorcerors.) Now, she might not of hit everyone, but I suppose a monster hit by a partner character with high luck will drop rare goods. <sub>- The preceeding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Fletcher|Fletcher]] on 20:49, 10 March 2007 (BST).</sub>

== Party vs. Leader Luck ==

I have found that through runs often times the luck of the leader does not make as much of a difference as the total luck of the party.  Would someone please substantiate or refute this, cateloged evidence would be helpful. <sub>- The preceeding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Adamwan|Adamwan]] on 18:13, 3 April 2007 (BST).</sub>