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| {{Unreleased item}} | [[Gudda Waya]] || {{Unreleased item}} | ? || {{Unreleased item}} | ? || [[Gudda Gant]] || {{Unreleased item}} | ?
 
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| {{Unreleased item}} | ? || {{Unreleased item}} | ? || {{Unreleased item}} | [[Ortaresin]] || [[Ortaresin]] || [[Ortaresin]]
 
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| {{Unreleased item}} | ? || {{Unreleased item}} | [[Metaresin]] || {{Unreleased item}} | [[Metaresin]] || [[Metaresin]] || [[Metaresin]]
 
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| {{Unreleased item}} | [[Armania]] || {{Rotational item}} | [[Armania]] || {{Unreleased item}} | [[Armania]] || [[Armania]] || [[Armania]]
 
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| {{Unreleased item}} | [[Goldania]] || {{Rotational item}} | [[Goldania]] || {{Unreleased item}} | [[Goldania]] || [[Goldania]] || [[Goldania]]
 
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Revision as of 06:42, 25 July 2009

Clear box research

Enemy name Special drops Mission LV C Mission LV B Mission LV A Mission LV S Mission LV S2
Mother Brain  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Dark Falz  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Misc. synthesis
materials 		 ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?

JP ver. comparison chart

This chart lists all items that dropped from the JP version of this mission. Please use the following color-coding to identify items.

  • Red background: Not confirmed to drop in EN version.
  • Gray background: Assumed item drops, not confirmed in either JP or EN version.
  • White background: Confirmed to drop in EN version.
Item type LV C LV B LV A LV S LV S2
Wea-
pons
Swords
 Flowen's Greatsword Flowen's Greatsword Flowen's Greatsword Flowen's Greatsword Flowen's Greatsword
Knuckles
 Gudda Waya  ?  ? Gudda Gant  ?
Longbows
  ? Izlucre  ?  ?  ?
Grenades
  ?  ?  ? Azul Fire Azul Fire
Twin handguns
  ?  ?  ? Deathmaker Deathmaker
Crossbows
  ? Cubo Upinde  ?  ? Cubo Mamba
RCSMs
  ? Rogaduke  ?  ?  ?
Wands
 Septara  ? Lidra  ? Majimra
TCSMs
  ? Rogapit Pegita  ? Ranpegi
LS
Line shields
  ?  ? Ganna Line Ganna Line Ganna Line
Line shields
  ?  ?  ?  ? Yiel Line
Line shields
  ?  ? Rabol Cati Rabol Cati  ?
Units
Arm units
  ?  ?  ?  ? Lumirus / Hit Charge
Body units
 Silence / Resist Silence / Resist Silence / Resist Silence / Resist Silence / Resist
Body units
 Stun / Resist Stun / Resist Stun / Resist Stun / Resist Stun / Resist
Extra units
  ?  ?  ?  ? Black Heart
Extra units
 Paradi Cataract Paradi Cataract Paradi Cataract Paradi Cataract Paradi Cataract
Extra units
  ?  ?  ?  ? Hizeri / Stamina
Mate-
rials 		Metal Carlian  ?  ?  ?  ?
Metal  ? Peparian  ?  ?  ?
Metal  ?  ? Slaterian Slaterian Slaterian
Metal  ?  ?  ? Cladorian Cladorian
Metal Meganite  ?  ?  ?  ?
Metal  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Metal  ?  ? Teranite Teranite Teranite
Metal  ?  ?  ? Petanite Petanite
Metal Harnium  ?  ?  ?  ?
Metal  ? Soldonium  ?  ?  ?
Metal  ?  ? Stelnium Stelnium Stelnium
Metal  ?  ?  ? Catilium Catilium
Metal  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Metal  ? Zepotite  ?  ?  ?
Metal  ? Chicotite Chicotite Chicotite Chicotite
Metal  ?  ?  ? Hapotite Hapotite
Biomaterial Note Seed Note Seed Note Seed Note Seed Note Seed
Biomaterial  ?  ?  ?  ? Meteoric Metal
Biomaterial Dallgun Snapshot Dallgun Snapshot Dallgun Snapshot Dallgun Snapshot Dallgun Snapshot
Biomaterial Nel Soul Nel Soul Nel Soul Nel Soul Nel Soul
Biomaterial  ?  ?  ?  ? Kireek Soul
Hard material Nanosilica  ?  ?  ?  ?
Hard material  ? Nanocarbon  ?  ?  ?
Hard material  ?  ? Nanoresin Nanoresin Nanoresin
Hard material  ?  ?  ? Nanopolymer Nanopolymer
Hard material Ortasilica  ?  ?  ?  ?
Hard material  ? Ortacarbon  ?  ?  ?
Hard material  ?  ? Ortaresin Ortaresin Ortaresin
Hard material  ?  ?  ? Ortapolymer Ortapolymer
Hard material Metasilica  ?  ?  ?  ?
Hard material  ? Metacarbon  ?  ?  ?
Hard material  ? Metaresin Metaresin Metaresin Metaresin
Hard material  ?  ?  ? Metapolymer Metapolymer
Gemstone Armania Armania Armania Armania Armania
Gemstone Goldania Goldania Goldania Goldania Goldania
Gemstone  ?  ? Morbinia Morbinia Morbinia
Gemstone  ?  ?  ? Titania Titania
Gemstone  ?  ?  ? Lithnia Lithnia
Wood  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Wood  ? Par Ash  ?  ?  ?
Wood  ? Par Ebon Par Ebon Par Ebon Par Ebon
Wood  ?  ?  ? Par Walna Par Walna
Wood  ?  ?  ?  ? Par Ork
Wood Kubara Wood Kubara Wood Kubara Wood Kubara Wood Kubara Wood
Synthesis board
Knuckles
 [B] Gudda Fest  ? [B] Gudda Gant  ? [B] Gudda Hon
Twin sabers
  ?  ? [B] Heavy Twins [B] Grand Cross [B] Grand Cross
Sabers
  ?  ?  ? [B] Blackheart [B] Blackheart
Rifles
  ?  ?  ?  ? [B] Killer Elite
Longbows
 [B] Dalteri  ?  ? [B] Rikauteri [B] Rikauteri
Twin handguns
 [B] Twin Powergun  ?  ? [B] Twin Tornado [B] Twin Tornado
Crossbows
  ?  ?  ?  ? [B] Cubo Tuma
Machineguns
  ?  ?  ? [B] Bulletdance [B] Bulletdance
Machineguns
  ?  ?  ?  ? [B] Germinus Gun
RCSMs
 [B] Rogaduke [B] Galdike  ? [B] Frauduke [B] Frauduke
Wands
 [B] Starra  ?  ?  ? [B] Tesbra
TCSMs
  ? [B] Pegita  ?  ? [B] Coni
Line shields
  ?  ?  ? [B] Castest Line [B] Catiline
Line shields
  ?  ?  ? [B] Castest Line [B] Armas Line
Line shields
  ?  ?  ? [B] De Colte Line [B] De Colte Line
Line shields
  ? [B] Rabol Dunga  ?  ?  ?

VR: Block B-b

Item type LV C LV B LV A LV S LV S2
Wea-
pons
Swords
 Breaker  ?  ?  ? Kan Yu
Double sabers
  ?  ?  ?  ? Double Agito
Twin daggers
  ? Twin Ripper  ? Lumiess Blau Lumiess Blau
Rods
 Luciel Marguisa  ?  ?  ?
Wands
  ?  ?  ? Serdote Serdote
Units
Arm units
 Mega / Knight Mega / Knight Solid / Knight Solid / Knight Lumirus/Kaos Knight
Mats. Metal  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Metal  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Metal  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Metal  ?  ?  ?  ? Petanite
Metal  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Metal Zepotite  ?  ?  ?  ?
Metal  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Metal  ?  ?  ?  ? Hapotite
Wood  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Wood Par Ash  ?  ?  ?  ?
Wood  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Wood  ?  ?  ?  ? Par Walna
Synthesis board
Swords
  ?  ?  ?  ? [B] Kan Yu
Spears
 [B] Lance  ?  ?  ?  ?
Double sabers
  ?  ?  ?  ? [B] Double Agito
Twin daggers
  ?  ?  ?  ? [B] Lumiess Blau
Rods
  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Wands
  ?  ?  ? [B] Serdote [B] Serdote
Line shields
 [B] Perpaline  ?  ?  ?  ?

VR: Block C-c

Item type LV C LV B LV A LV S LV S2
Wea-
pons
Shotguns
 Shigga Stam Shigga Boma  ?  ? Shigga Baret
Grenades
  ?  ?  ?  ? Gur Asted
Twin handguns
  ?  ?  ?  ? Arb Boa
Handguns
 B'duki Magana  ?  ?  ? B'duki Boa
Crossbows
 Cubo Upinde Cubo Upinde Cubo Mamba  ? Cubo Tuma
Machineguns
  ? Magga S'bina  ?  ? Magga Guin
Mats. Metal  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Metal  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Metal  ?  ?  ?  ? Stelnium
Metal  ?  ?  ?  ? Catilium
Synthesis board
Shotguns
 [B] Shigga Stam [B] Shigga Boma  ?  ? [B] Shigga Baret
Grenades
 [B] Gur Neda  ?  ?  ? [B] Gur Asted
Twin handguns
  ?  ?  ?  ? [B] Arb Boa
Handguns
 [B] B'duki Magana  ?  ?  ? [B] B'duki Boa
Crossbows
 [B] Cubo Upinde  ?  ?  ? [B] Cubo Tuma
Machineguns
  ?  ?  ?  ? [B] Magga Guin

Drop notes

It appears that B-b is similar to Lightning Beasts and C-c is similar to Bladed Legacy on clear drops. On a separate note, it seems that at the moment we're recording just about everything box-wise while leaving the non-boss ones on the main pages. Realisitically, I don't think that we need to be too concerned about much other than the 150+ boss drops. Exceptions could probably be made for Kireek Soul and Orpaline from S difficulty on this one though. It's generally good for just plain having that sort of in-depth research, but it sort of looks like we're overcompensating in response to some of the higher end boss drop changes.--S-T-H 05:50, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Normal box drop research

VR: Block A-a

Item type LV C LV B LV A LV S LV S2
Mats. Wood Par Wood Par Wood  ?  ?  ?
Wood  ? Par Ash Par Ash  ?  ?
Wood  ?  ? Par Ebon Par Ebon Par Ebon
Wood  ?  ? Par Walna Par Walna Par Walna

VR: Block A-b

Item type LV C LV B LV A LV S LV S2
Mats. Hard material  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Hard material  ? Nanocarbon  ?  ?  ?
Hard material  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Hard material  ?  ?  ?  ? Petanite
Wood  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Wood  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Wood  ?  ? Par Ebon  ? Par Ebon
Wood  ?  ?  ?  ? Par Walna
Synthesis board
Line shields
  ? [B] Megaline  ?  ?  ?

VR: Block B-b

Item type LV C LV B LV A LV S LV S2
Mats. Metal Gamotite  ?  ?  ?  ?
Metal  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Metal  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Metal  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Hard material  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Hard material  ? Nanocarbon  ?  ?  ?
Hard material  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Hard material  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Wood Par Wood  ?  ?  ?  ?
Wood Par Ash  ?  ?  ?  ?
Wood  ?  ? Par Ebon  ? Par Ebon
Wood  ?  ?  ?  ? Par Walna
Gemstone Olpad  ? Berilad Saffiad Recnad
Synthesis board
Line shields
  ? [B] Megaline  ?  ?  ?

VR: Block B-c

Item type LV C LV B LV A LV S LV S2
Mats. Metal Soural  ?  ?  ?  ?
Metal Speral  ?  ?  ?  ?
Metal  ?  ?  ?  ? Cyral
Metal  ?  ?  ?  ? Ydral
Wood Kubara Wood  ?  ?  ? Kubara Wood

VR: Block C-a

Item type LV C LV B LV A LV S LV S2
Mats. Biomaterial  ? Relic Edge  ?  ? Relic Edge
Hard material  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Hard material  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Hard material  ? Nanoresin  ?  ? Nanoresin
Hard material  ? Nanopolymer  ?  ? Nanopolymer
Hard material  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Hard material  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Hard material  ? Ortaresin  ?  ? Ortaresin
Hard material  ? Ortapolymer  ?  ? Ortapolymer
Hard material  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Hard material  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Hard material  ? Metaresin  ?  ? Metaresin
Hard material  ? Metapolymer  ?  ? Metapolymer

VR: Block C-b

Item type LV C LV B LV A LV S LV S2
Mats. Hard material  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Hard material  ? Nanocarbon  ?  ?  ?
Hard material  ?  ?  ?  ? Nanopolymer
Hard material  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Wood  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Wood  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Wood  ?  ? Par Ebon  ?  ?
Wood  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Synthesis board
Line shields
  ? [B] Megaline  ?  ?  ?

VR: Main Block 1

Item type LV C LV B LV A LV S LV S2
Mats. Metal Meganite  ?  ?  ?  ?
Metal  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Metal  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
Metal  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?

Disc locations

Block Location
Entrance Inside the tree next to the crystal.
In the area with the warps to the other areas.
Block A-a In the corner to the right of the starting point.
Through the stacked boxes behind the warp to the fenced off room.
Block A-b Behind destroyable rubble next to the zonde trap.
Down behind the zonde trap, destroy the rubble to unlock the door, the disc is to the right behind destroyable rubble.
Block A-c Behind the door with four floor switches.
Behind the fake wall at the end of the big room.
Block B-a Behind you after taking the warp to the dark (Kireeks) area.
Behind the door with the dead end in the last room. It opens after defeating all enemies.
Block B-b Destroy the middle trap on the bridge.
In the south east corner of the box room at the end.
Block B-c Goggle and destroy a lamp in the room where you get Id key 1.
Behind the boxes at the end (by the warp to Main Block 1).
Block C-a Through a fake wall and corridor that are not on the radar map after the Zashagoran, after the Id key 1 (1 of 4).
Behind the door locked with Id key 1.
Block C-b In the rubble on the floor after shooting the rubble on the ceiling above the zone traps.
In the south west corner of the room before the zonde traps.
Block C-c Through the wall behind the warp.
North west corner after defeating the enemies.
Main block 2 Behind fake rocks in the north western corner.
Destroy the SEED core after defeating all enemies.
Last block Destroy the box that appears at the far end of the runway after 30 seconds.
Destroy the box that appears in the middle of the raft after 30 seconds.
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