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Offline info\Enemy Info

Is it really that neccesary to have info on offline weapons/enemies/whatever? Maybe it's just me, but some of the pages look really, really, well, bad with all that crap. And I think it's safe to assume that most, if not all, people use PSUPedia for online info.

Totally unrelated, but I also think the pages for enemies should be reworked so all of them follow the same layout. Show level per mission, exp, HP. If someone can make a layout, I'd gladly add in all the info. Eventually add in drops too, perhaps. Examples: http://psupedia.info/Gol_Dolva http://psupedia.info/Badira http://psupedia.info/Goshin They're all pretty different, and some are missing info.

Question on Style

I was discussing with someone about some edits to a certain article. I was told that my edits required dumbing down because my use of speech was far too elaborate. It kind of caught me off guard, but it now strikes me as a more sweeping issue then something limited to a singular article. So, I am going to pose the question here. Is my use of speech far too elaborate to be used in these articles of PSUpedia? Or shall I try to stick to a more simplistic array of words? It is not like I am intentionally trying to pull fancy words out of my rear, I just normally write like this, I blame my father. In either case, I'm going to leave the question of style here, how elaborate is too elaborate? --Ccelizic 20:05, 13 June 2007 (BST)

• I have a somewhat similarly elaborate style of writing too, which is natural for me. I'd say it doesn't really matter, so long as you are getting the message across. People don't necessarily have to write like you to understand what you write, so I see no need to dumb down. I'd just make a general point, not aimed at anyone in particular, to avoid obvious things such as slang, internet terms or phrases (even popular ones), irrelevant and/or esoteric jargon, and words which will likely confuse people or send them scuttering to dictionary.com. I suppose also it's worth noting that this is supposed to be a resource for any and all players (even Japanese ones, if we ever trump their sites), and obviously not everyone has such a good grasp of English as native speakers do. Mewn 02:32, 14 June 2007 (BST)
• What Mewn said. --Qwerty 03:30, 14 June 2007 (BST)

Project:Copyrights

Look at that block of text below your editor window. It goes on saying how this is released under the GNU Free Documentation Liscense 1.2. And then, as you can see it directs the user to look at Project:Copyrights for more information. Now, that link spits over to something nonexisitant. Is that intentional? Do we need someone to get that legal information in there? Did ninja kidnap it? Or is that some link that needs to be removed from the editor page? Maybe I'm obssessing over something asinine, but it seemed to strike me as something worth bringing up. --Ccelizic 06:39, 13 June 2007 (BST)

Massive edits

To those who edit/add to this site, can I ask you to PLEASE use the preview button? It's not that far away from the submit button. It lowers the ammount of posts listed in the Recent Changes page. It just gets in the way and makes it harder to keep track of what's been updated. Thank you for reading this.Rydia 08:17, 30 March 2007 (BST)

• Not to mock you, but while this is a talk page, the "Raffon Field Base" project means to leave comments in the article itself! - Miraglyth 17:37, 30 March 2007 (BST)
  • Oops ^_^ My appologies. Wasn't totaly sure where I was supposed to place this.Rydia 18:27, 30 March 2007 (BST)
  • I'll take the liberty of moving it. For the record: I agree with you, 2 or maybe even 3 edits to correct mistakes made is acceptable... but when you start seeing six or more consecutive edits on the same article, it starts to seem like a piss-take. I would urge people to use the Preview function, and better yet, to check and double check what they have put. Mewn 20:07, 30 March 2007 (BST)
  • Even failing that, the least people could do would be to use the "Summary" box to detail the cause of so many edits. - Miraglyth 04:05, 31 March 2007 (BST)
  • Well, people don't seem to have taken much notice of this, and the same sections of articles are repeatedly being edited over a small period of time by the same person. Is there anything anyone can think of to stop this, without being ridiculously harsh? Mewn 21:14, 1 April 2007 (BST)
  • Is it possible to put a timer on how quickly a single account can edit one page? If you could put this on then people would be forced to either use the preview effectively or wait an incredibly long time to complete a page, I'm not sure on the limitations of this Wiki, so it's just an idea. Wormania 23:55, 1 April 2007 (BST)

Planet Maps

Can someone get/compile a map of the planets, with locations? The small cut of the maps on the mission screen, is not really helpful for an overview. _{- The preceeding unsigned comment was added by Mixilli.}

• Before I lost the net I was working on some maps. I made only 1 map so far, Linear Line "A" path(I call it A, not the A from Rare Monster's Page). Maybe I sould do that again. It was a challange, but fun. Rydia 04:58, 31 March 2007 (BST)
  • I thought Mixilli meant the planets themselves, with "the mission screen" being referred to as the overhead "map" screen you get when at the mission counters. - Miraglyth 05:12, 31 March 2007 (BST)
    • Huh. beats me really. hough I wouldn't mind maping as much of he game as I can and is needed of me. Maybe I could do "box" locaions better then my original map. Rydia 07:33, 31 March 2007 (BST)
  • I've been maintaining a map of all the missions for each planet, just for my own use. It shows how they link up, and what level enemies there are. I could make an image of these if that would be helpful. Pob 11:08, 4 April 2007 (BST)

Rappy Paska

• Isn't easter rappies called Rappy Baska not Rappy Paska? i changed it to baska but sum1 changed it to Paska. _{- The preceeding unsigned comment was added by Wild Goose.}
  • In-game they are called Rappy Paska. Yes, this does mean that the English website preview is wrong. - Miraglyth 03:09, 25 March 2007 (BST)
    • Most likely a mistranslation on SoA's part. Rappy Paska in katakana is ラッピー･パスカ (Rappii Pasuka) whereas Baska would be バスカ. Kinda easy to mistranslate the first kana due to the similar symbols. Paska is correct, however, as it probably refers to Paska bread. Mewn 12:27, 25 March 2007 (BST)
      • Interesting, I always figured it was a bastardization of the word "paschal," but I guess the bread makes sense too. SoA was probably thinking Baska as in Easter Basket. --Qwerty 17:30, 25 March 2007 (BST)
        • Could be. I guess they were trying to americanize it? but yea easter basket= Baska.--Wild Goose 19:56, 25 March 2007 (BST)
          • lol, multi-lingualism. Actually I think the chance SoJ knows about Ukranian easter bread is pretty slim. Check this; half of the article names in other languages it refers to are similar to this. Really, the English term is the odd one out. - Tycho 18:01, 27 March 2007 (BST)
            • it really is an odd one. it is basically the only one that does not sound like the hebrew wording. i guess we hav to be unique :)--Wild Goose 21:42, 27 March 2007 (BST)
          • Heh, I didn't notice that, Tych. Admittedly, I only know Easter in three languages (English, French - Pâques, and German - Ostern) and thought the whole Paska thing too much the same to be mere coincidence. A shame if it was just a reference to Pascha or whatever, at least a reference to Ukranian bread would be far more interesting than just 'hay guyz we bastardized Easter in a foreign language lol'. Mewn 01:19, 28 March 2007 (BST)

New item container

New Item Box

• I found this on easter peril i have some pics of it. the wierd part was its on the ceiling. i dont know if it has any better droprate than normal. Loki 16:11, 14 April 2007 (CST)
  • Not sure if they have any particular higher droprate. I've heard they can drop Something Sweet but I don't really know, maybe someone else here knows more than me. Mewn 23:25, 14 April 2007 (BST)
    • That has been known about since the day Eastern Peril came out. They just seem to have a slightly different drop list than the other containers, often dropping Something Sweet, buff items, and Scape Dolls. They also drop assorted berries. --Qwerty 03:43, 15 April 2007 (BST)

Main page linking

I understand the use of the search box, but i do feel that the site could use some bettermain page linking to other pages. For example AoI is in hot discussion right now, but there is no way to get there unless you do a search or go to categories. Im not trying to put this job off on anyone else, but im not very good with wiki editing and parts or the main page are restricted to normal users. Tell me what you think. And on a side note, what happened to the pick of the day idea, or even pick of the week, that would be cool. Loki 21:41, 17 April 2007 (CST)

• I think I was the only person who's really been pushing for additions of this nature - for example, I've done a small amount of fiddling with a possible new Navigation section. The trouble IMO is that almost nobody else seems to care. For similar reasons our Photon Fortune situation is awful, our Rare Monsters tables are still inconsistent and ugleh despite work to improve it and the "new logos" work has amounted to nothing. - Miraglyth 18:56, 18 April 2007 (BST)
  • I see the work you do around here, and I for one really apreciate it. I not entirely wiki knowlegable, in fact this is the first one ive worked on, but an online game of this nature can not have its guides created by a single person. It is way to massive, and there is way to much data to be compiled to rest on the shoulders of one. Im trying my best here and if there is anything you want help with im game. The PSU community needs to help each other out. Loki 15:38, 18 April 2007 (CST)
  • I really do like your work on Rare Monsters tables better than the current one. What refrain you from adding it? (Beside the hard work). Also, that would be better with links to monsters pages. The really good thing with yours is that everything fit on the screen. Anyway if you need help adding this design, please ask. Essen 15:54, 25 April 2007 (BST)
    • It's that nobody else in the discussion pages for Qwerty or myself have lent any support or criticism. There's no point mass-implementing something of this scale only to have people then turn around and say "Oh no let's go back to the old one." so I'm stuck doing nothing until people - regulars and sysops - actually say something ¬_¬ - Miraglyth 23:48, 25 April 2007 (BST)
    • I believe I lent my support for it... Mewn 09:04, 26 April 2007 (BST)
• I agree that we need a better sort of "site-map" or directory of some sort, or at least we need to reorganize which links are in the main menu, because otherwise entire articles can get overlooked (sort of like the two I worked out today, there's no real good place from which to link them in the current setup). While I am not terribly familiar with the functioning of categories, templates, or table coding, I can try to work on something now that schoolwork is finally letting up. I'd also like to see us reorganize the Rare Monsters page to make it fit with the template Miraglyth has worked out. These are all things I've wanted to do for a while, but thus far I've been too preoccupied with shoolwork and pestering Mira on the forums to work them out. Hopefully we can make some headway on this stuff in the coming weeks. --Qwerty
  • Just another comment: I think expandable/collapsible menus might help a lot with organizing things, either in the sidebar or on the main page. However, it seems that can only be done with javascript, and I sure as hell don't know any java, nor do I even know if it would work in the wiki context. Either way, it's something to consider. I may also try to draw up a rough sitemap later tonight if I have time. --Qwerty 19:10, 9 May 2007 (BST)
    • Me yet again. I found some wiki extension that allows for the creation of collapsible menus and such. I'm assuming Tycho or HitmonCHAN would have to install this then, yes? It does seem like something that would be very helpful for organizing menus in a compact fashion, allowing the linking to many articles from the main page. Thoughts? --Qwerty 22:06, 9 May 2007 (BST)
    • That extension sounds good, but Tych currently doesn't have FTP access and I don't expect Hitomi to bother with this site, as he works on PSUTopia now. Once it is installed I'll play around with it and see what I can come up with. Mewn 14:36, 10 May 2007 (BST)
    • Here you go. One CategoryTree extension, yo. - Tycho 18:30, 10 May 2007 (BST)

monsters have 2 pages each

• There is a double page for monster data one at http://www.psupedia.info/index.php?title=Monsters and one at http://psupedia.info/index.php?title=Category:Monsters. These links should for each monster should all link tothe same monster page. Loki 16:04, 17 April 2007 (CST)
• Category:Monsters is an auto-generated page created by placing individual articles into the Monster category, hence it just serves as a listing of all the monster articles in the game. The purpose for this is different than the standard Monsters page, which to me would seem rather data-heavy when I just wanted to look through the Monsters category. In addition, there are further subcategories (Colony Monsters, S-Rank Monsters, Rare Monsters etc.) that would be pointless if the Category was made to redirect to the Monsters article. I don't like the idea of making them the same article anyway - the whole purpose of the Category: articles is merely to provide perhaps a bit of text and a listing of the articles within that category and little else. My $0.02. Mewn 23:10, 18 April 2007 (BST)