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** That's strange.  I'm fairly certain I'd seen some there before.  Guess I could be thinking of another mission, though.  I'll look into it some when I get a chance to play the mission a few times through. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 21:47, 30 January 2008 (CST)
 
** That's strange.  I'm fairly certain I'd seen some there before.  Guess I could be thinking of another mission, though.  I'll look into it some when I get a chance to play the mission a few times through. - [[User:EspioKaos|EspioKaos]] 21:47, 30 January 2008 (CST)
 
** The mission was altered at one point, no? It definitely had Zoona this time last year. That said, most variations are Zoona-free. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 23:34, 30 January 2008 (CST)
 
** The mission was altered at one point, no? It definitely had Zoona this time last year. That said, most variations are Zoona-free. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 23:34, 30 January 2008 (CST)
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*** Zoona were removed as of the rebalance.  As far as myself and the JP-wiki are concerned they no longer exist here.  [[User:S-T-H|S-T-H]] 01:45, 17 June 2008 (CDT)
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==== Bad Valley of Carnage A pattern ====
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These comments have been taken from the original location of the enemy spawn chart.  They may or may not still be relevant.
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* I got yesterday the A-X pattern but no jaggos. I'm guessing the A-1 is wrong and is really like A-X, and you know if you have jaggos after the gate like in C-X. This needs confirmation though. [[User:Essen|Essen]] 17:09, 20 May 2007 (BST)
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This is confirmation ::: In the A-X, B-X and C-X Maps, the first spawn sequence of vandas must be 3+2+2 in block 2. (I've gotten them several times each)  After the gate, go down the sloping path and kill the (2) Kog Nadds.  Immediately after that '''5''' Vandas will appear spawned together at once.  If you only see 4 you have the wrong map.  This is the same sequence on all 3 rare maps for the second block. --[[User:Renderingdragon|Renderingdragon]] 22:41, 31 May 2007 (BST)
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[[User:S-T-H|S-T-H]] 01:50, 17 June 2008 (CDT)
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==== Valley of Carnage C-X Confirmed ====
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These comments have been taken from the original location of the enemy spawn chart.  They may or may not still be relevant.
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I returned to Valley of Carnage two nights ago and finally got Jaggos.  C-1 and C-X as far as I could tell were completely identical, for EVERY enemy spawn.  I had already written out the exact spawn of C-1, and when I get C-X the only way I knew was when I got to the end of block 2.  After the 2x Kog Nadd, the 4x Vanda spawn.  If you kill one and more show, you got Jaggo's.  This was already written earlier in the discussion, but I wanted to confirm that there is NO POSSIBLE WAY to know if you have Jaggo's until then.  I even tried watch formations, but they're always the same.  [[User:Shadow Hado|Shadow Hado]]
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Just a small note.  When the Jaggo's will appear.. there are actually 5 Vandas that spawn after the 2 Kog Nadds in the second room in block 2, not 4 Vandas.  So, if you see 5, your good to go.. if only 4.. you wont see them.--[[User:RenderingDragon|Ren]] 18:06, 9 April 2007 (BST)
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[[User:S-T-H|S-T-H]] 01:50, 17 June 2008 (CDT)
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==== Jaggo Hunting ====
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These comments have been taken from the original location of the enemy spawn chart.  They may or may not still be relevant.
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*Here it is folks...<br>C1 and CX are identical up until a particular sequence in Block 2.<br>First get to block 2 with the Vanda 3-2-2 sequence. (if you get the 3-3-1 sequence you will not find the jao)<br>The difference isn't until you pass the gate.<br>Pass the gate, go down the hill and kill the 2 Kog Nodds.<br>4 Vanda's will now spawn<br>'''THIS IS WHERE THE DIFFERENCE IS'''<br>Two different things can happen...
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::'''Number 1''': Once '''all''' 4 Vandas (withOUT shield and sword icons) are killed one more Vanda will spawn, then lapuchas.  No Jao's will spawn in this map.
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::'''Number 2''': Once a '''single''' Vanda is killed, more Vanda's will spawn, then more.(i'm not sure of the number because it's been so few times I've found it (only 4)) Once all the Vandas are killed, the jao's will spawn.
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:Im not sure if those 4 Vandas have the sword and shield icons when the jao's spawn, I'll have to re-post after the next time I find the jao.  I wasn't paying attention the first 4 times I found them (probably because I was excited)
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:I hope this helps. PS. I do have one relaxing jao in my room ;)--[[User:RenderingDragon|Ren]] 14:05, 4 January 2007 (CST)
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*This is also true with B1 and BX. These two are also identical until the second room in block two.
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:I started hunting for jaggos again since the jaggo amure came out and I have to say that, at least since friday, the second block with a spawn of 3-3-1 is right. I saw the jaggos quite a few times since friday, twice a day to be exact, and all of these were with the 3-3-1 spawn. I am 100% sure of this since, I am level 71, I do that on C rank, I use a spear with dus robaddo to kill the first 3, it kills all 3 at once, and 3 more spawn right after, then one more.
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:Do not neglect the infos post by Ren above me though, since this is also a requirement.
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:Since there seams to always be a problem with the second block, I would personally suggest getting the first block right and once you have that, go to the end, no matter what. I always do this and saw quite a few jaggo even before the jaggo amure.
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:I hope this help those who are looking for jaggo amure ^_^ --[[Shadow black Hedgehog]] 3:21 AM eastern, 12 March 2007
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*On which map variation was this? C? I did VoC a few times today and noticed that the A-1 and B-1 Block 2 spawns were incorrect for the first set of Vandas (The chart now shows the correct spawns). They were both 3-3-1, with no Jaggos. I'm going to assume that means it's the 3-2-2 spawn that determines if it is a rare variation or not for A and B. [[User:Morningrise|Morningrise]] 04:34, 25 March 2007 (BST)
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[[User:S-T-H|S-T-H]] 01:50, 17 June 2008 (CDT)

Latest revision as of 06:50, 17 June 2008

Zoona?

  • After several runs through different variations of Valley of Carnage C, didn't saw any Zoona there. Maybe I didn't make enough runs, but I was wondering if there are really any Zoona on Valley of Carnage. Ezodagrom 21:15, 30 January 2008 (CST)
    • That's strange. I'm fairly certain I'd seen some there before. Guess I could be thinking of another mission, though. I'll look into it some when I get a chance to play the mission a few times through. - EspioKaos 21:47, 30 January 2008 (CST)
    • The mission was altered at one point, no? It definitely had Zoona this time last year. That said, most variations are Zoona-free. - Miraglyth 23:34, 30 January 2008 (CST)
      • Zoona were removed as of the rebalance. As far as myself and the JP-wiki are concerned they no longer exist here. S-T-H 01:45, 17 June 2008 (CDT)


Bad Valley of Carnage A pattern

These comments have been taken from the original location of the enemy spawn chart. They may or may not still be relevant.


  • I got yesterday the A-X pattern but no jaggos. I'm guessing the A-1 is wrong and is really like A-X, and you know if you have jaggos after the gate like in C-X. This needs confirmation though. Essen 17:09, 20 May 2007 (BST)


This is confirmation ::: In the A-X, B-X and C-X Maps, the first spawn sequence of vandas must be 3+2+2 in block 2. (I've gotten them several times each) After the gate, go down the sloping path and kill the (2) Kog Nadds. Immediately after that 5 Vandas will appear spawned together at once. If you only see 4 you have the wrong map. This is the same sequence on all 3 rare maps for the second block. --Renderingdragon 22:41, 31 May 2007 (BST)


S-T-H 01:50, 17 June 2008 (CDT)


Valley of Carnage C-X Confirmed

These comments have been taken from the original location of the enemy spawn chart. They may or may not still be relevant.


I returned to Valley of Carnage two nights ago and finally got Jaggos. C-1 and C-X as far as I could tell were completely identical, for EVERY enemy spawn. I had already written out the exact spawn of C-1, and when I get C-X the only way I knew was when I got to the end of block 2. After the 2x Kog Nadd, the 4x Vanda spawn. If you kill one and more show, you got Jaggo's. This was already written earlier in the discussion, but I wanted to confirm that there is NO POSSIBLE WAY to know if you have Jaggo's until then. I even tried watch formations, but they're always the same. Shadow Hado

Just a small note. When the Jaggo's will appear.. there are actually 5 Vandas that spawn after the 2 Kog Nadds in the second room in block 2, not 4 Vandas. So, if you see 5, your good to go.. if only 4.. you wont see them.--Ren 18:06, 9 April 2007 (BST)


S-T-H 01:50, 17 June 2008 (CDT)


Jaggo Hunting

These comments have been taken from the original location of the enemy spawn chart. They may or may not still be relevant.


  • Here it is folks...
    C1 and CX are identical up until a particular sequence in Block 2.
    First get to block 2 with the Vanda 3-2-2 sequence. (if you get the 3-3-1 sequence you will not find the jao)
    The difference isn't until you pass the gate.
    Pass the gate, go down the hill and kill the 2 Kog Nodds.
    4 Vanda's will now spawn
    THIS IS WHERE THE DIFFERENCE IS
    Two different things can happen...
Number 1: Once all 4 Vandas (withOUT shield and sword icons) are killed one more Vanda will spawn, then lapuchas. No Jao's will spawn in this map.
Number 2: Once a single Vanda is killed, more Vanda's will spawn, then more.(i'm not sure of the number because it's been so few times I've found it (only 4)) Once all the Vandas are killed, the jao's will spawn.
Im not sure if those 4 Vandas have the sword and shield icons when the jao's spawn, I'll have to re-post after the next time I find the jao. I wasn't paying attention the first 4 times I found them (probably because I was excited)
I hope this helps. PS. I do have one relaxing jao in my room ;)--Ren 14:05, 4 January 2007 (CST)
  • This is also true with B1 and BX. These two are also identical until the second room in block two.
I started hunting for jaggos again since the jaggo amure came out and I have to say that, at least since friday, the second block with a spawn of 3-3-1 is right. I saw the jaggos quite a few times since friday, twice a day to be exact, and all of these were with the 3-3-1 spawn. I am 100% sure of this since, I am level 71, I do that on C rank, I use a spear with dus robaddo to kill the first 3, it kills all 3 at once, and 3 more spawn right after, then one more.
Do not neglect the infos post by Ren above me though, since this is also a requirement.
Since there seams to always be a problem with the second block, I would personally suggest getting the first block right and once you have that, go to the end, no matter what. I always do this and saw quite a few jaggo even before the jaggo amure.
I hope this help those who are looking for jaggo amure ^_^ --Shadow black Hedgehog 3:21 AM eastern, 12 March 2007
  • On which map variation was this? C? I did VoC a few times today and noticed that the A-1 and B-1 Block 2 spawns were incorrect for the first set of Vandas (The chart now shows the correct spawns). They were both 3-3-1, with no Jaggos. I'm going to assume that means it's the 3-2-2 spawn that determines if it is a rare variation or not for A and B. Morningrise 04:34, 25 March 2007 (BST)


S-T-H 01:50, 17 June 2008 (CDT)

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