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* Conditionals on something like that is tough. You can't really use "If 1 then Acenaline, else if 2 then Wenceline, else if 3 than Aporaline..." because that is insanely messy. It'd really need to be more lookup-based stuff, which can be fiddly to set up within a template but that's a one-time problem. Anyway, as to your suggestion NM: You've got mixed terminology with those stats up there (Att, Acc and Tech vs. TP, DFP, EVP etc.). At this point I would just say "Since this is equipment, use the former" but there's a rarely-voiced disagreement with "which to use" and discussion on that one hasn't resolved yet. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 06:33, 13 April 2008 (CDT) | * Conditionals on something like that is tough. You can't really use "If 1 then Acenaline, else if 2 then Wenceline, else if 3 than Aporaline..." because that is insanely messy. It'd really need to be more lookup-based stuff, which can be fiddly to set up within a template but that's a one-time problem. Anyway, as to your suggestion NM: You've got mixed terminology with those stats up there (Att, Acc and Tech vs. TP, DFP, EVP etc.). At this point I would just say "Since this is equipment, use the former" but there's a rarely-voiced disagreement with "which to use" and discussion on that one hasn't resolved yet. - [[User:Miraglyth|Miraglyth]] 06:33, 13 April 2008 (CDT) | ||
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+ | *(Att, Acc and Tech vs. TP, DFP, EVP etc) i remember past arguments on that before, however thats not my concern as its not finalised and i was waiting for feedback like yours.. if theres a standard on what terminology yous have set then i would use that, however I'll prob stay out of that argument and see how things play out. It's not a big deal to me which version of those terminology yous use as its all the same. Well in the JP version they only have like the one type of terminology nothing complicated. I hope this terminolgy thing isn't something that would stall this idea for a while.. [[User:Natasha Milarose|Natasha Milarose]] 07:02, 13 April 2008 (CDT) | ||
== '''Finding the NPC Value of an item.''' == | == '''Finding the NPC Value of an item.''' == |
Revision as of 12:02, 13 April 2008
Contents
Sandbox Introduction
Play with things here!
Use the PREVIEW EDIT button and get a feel for what your changes in the edit window do to a page. This page is intended only for experimentation, so don't worry about messing anything up. --Beatrixkiddo 23:11, 2 April 2008 (CDT)
And here are some wiki elements to play with!
Template:Board stats 10 star force
Armor Line Stats / Board Templates
Addressed to the Permissions department whoever they are..
Greetings, I noticed it seems the Line Sheild pages have been lacking or inconsistent, So I put in abit of time coming up with a more unified template (complete with synth time / success rates which i have tested out personally) for Line boards given in the below example..
Board Stats | |||
Photon | [[{{{???-Photon}}}]] x3 | Ore | Acenaline x1 |
Hard material | {{{Hard Mat}}} x1 | - | - |
[B] Uses | 5 | Synth Rate | 65-70% |
Synth Time | 0:30 | [B] Used | {{{Board}}} |
{{Line shield board 1-stars |???-Photon= |Hard Mat= |Board= }}
The above sample demonstrates the 1star template and it goes on until 10 stars (haven't done 11 yet). The add to further benefits this templates will allow easier to edit Shield Line pages having less to edit and you can adjust on the fly any synth changes of all the pages in one go if sega ever performs another systems adjustments on synthing. The only exception to using this template are the few Shield Lines that requires a Bio material in synth they can use an optimal alternate one.
My 2nd Suggestion is an upgrade to the Shield Line Stats template to this:
Stats | |||||
Type | DFP | {{{DFP}}} | Att | {{{Att}}} | |
Rarity | {{{{{rarity}}} star cell}} | EVP | {{{EVP}}} | Acc | {{{Acc}}} |
Version | {{{version}}} | MST | {{{MST}}} | Tech | {{{Tech}}} |
MAKER | {{{Maker}}} | END | {{{END}}} | Req | {{{Req}}} |
{{Line shield stats |DFP= |Att= |rarity= |EVP= |Acc= |MST= |Tech= |END= |Req= |Maker= |version= }}
I think those with the knowledge would know by now many shield Lines add extra Stats other than the simple DFP, EVP and MST. So this new template provides that. I hope these new suggestions are not too bold. But i do have the templates written up offline and ready to go. Open to any verdicts or rejections.
Regards Natasha Milarose 00:52, 13 April 2008 (CDT)
- Mainly, I'm just bumping this up to the top of recent changes since I kind of flooded it with minor edits to a work-in-progress template. (Sorry about that. <_<) Anyway, I've been thinking recently about getting a single template set up that would use conditionals to determine the individual synthesis stats based on the entered rarity. That way, we'd only have to worry about a single template instead of multiple. But to be honest, I might be getting in a little too far over my head with that. I've successfully done the conditional template thing a few times, but my most recent attempts have not gone too well. <_<; - EspioKaos 01:59, 13 April 2008 (CDT)
- That idea sounds better and should put mine as Plan B to fall back on espio, do you have any sample of the template so far, im feeling alittle committed to the shield Line pages at the moment lol. If needed i have collected data based on the current game adjustments on Shield Line success rates (from a 0 armor PM to a 100 armor PM) and its synth times. The only things that fall out of the common equations are the 'specail' Shield lines that use Bio materials, they have their own seperate success rates. Natasha Milarose 03:14, 13 April 2008 (CDT)
- Conditionals on something like that is tough. You can't really use "If 1 then Acenaline, else if 2 then Wenceline, else if 3 than Aporaline..." because that is insanely messy. It'd really need to be more lookup-based stuff, which can be fiddly to set up within a template but that's a one-time problem. Anyway, as to your suggestion NM: You've got mixed terminology with those stats up there (Att, Acc and Tech vs. TP, DFP, EVP etc.). At this point I would just say "Since this is equipment, use the former" but there's a rarely-voiced disagreement with "which to use" and discussion on that one hasn't resolved yet. - Miraglyth 06:33, 13 April 2008 (CDT)
- (Att, Acc and Tech vs. TP, DFP, EVP etc) i remember past arguments on that before, however thats not my concern as its not finalised and i was waiting for feedback like yours.. if theres a standard on what terminology yous have set then i would use that, however I'll prob stay out of that argument and see how things play out. It's not a big deal to me which version of those terminology yous use as its all the same. Well in the JP version they only have like the one type of terminology nothing complicated. I hope this terminolgy thing isn't something that would stall this idea for a while.. Natasha Milarose 07:02, 13 April 2008 (CDT)
Finding the NPC Value of an item.
This is most useful for pricing an item that is not available in an NPC store for sale in a player shop. The price the NPC store would buy the item from you is muiliplied by the item variable to give you the value of what the NPC would sell that item for.
For example:
If you were to sell a monomate at the NPC store they would only pay 5 mesta. To find out what the NPC store would buy a monomate for multiply that 5 mesta by the healing items varible of 10. You get 50 meseta, which we all know is what a monomate is worth.
Item Variable (rounded to the nearest hundredth)
Weapon x 6.67 | Armor x 5.00 | Healing x 10.00 | Clothes x 100.00 | Synthesis x 20.00
--Lunezda 21:56, 31 July 2007 (BST)
- Er, I just kind of randomly stumbled in here, but actually the rate at which you can resell items to NPCs depends on the item type -- most stuff like this was included in the Meseta article in early phases. Yeah, I realize it's kind of confusing when there's topics overlapping for two main subjects (Items and Meseta) to guess where such information would be listed, and that the past choices might seem arbitrary. Anyway, just so you know. >_> - Tycho 10:21, 11 October 2007 (BST)
Bullets page (well needed update)
After having looked at the Bullets page, I came up with a few things which could be changed that might help people running on 1024x768 (recommended resolution). The main problem is the PA Fragment statistics and cost tables which may not be a problem for people with widescreen users but for others it may look very cramped. - D-Scythe
With
Weapon | ||||||||||||||||
SE Lv. | Rng(m) | NoB | PP | SE Lv. | Rng(m) | NoB | PP | SE Lv. | Rng(m) | NoB | PP | SE Lv. | Rng(m) | NoB | PP | |
Rifle: Killer Shot | 2 | ?? | 1 | 32(25) | 3 | ?? | 1 | 40(32) | 4 | ?? | 1 | 48(38) | ? | ? | ? | ? |
Shotgun: Barada Maga | 1 | ?? | 3 | 18(14) | 1 | ?? | 4 | 24(19) | 2 | ?? | 5 | 30(24) | ? | ? | ? | ? |
Longbow: Chousei-Sou | - | ?? | 1 | 12 | - | ?? | 1 | 15 | - | ?? | 1 | 18 | ? | ? | ? | ? |
Grenade Launcher: Boma Maga | 1 | 9 | 1 | 90(72) | 1 | 9 | 1 | 120(96) | 1 | 9 | 1 | 150(120) | ? | ? | ? | ? |
Laser Cannon: Mayalee Prism | - | ?? | 1 | 36(28) | - | ?? | 1 | 42(33) | - | ?? | 1 | 48(38) | ? | ? | ? | ? |
Twin Handgun: Twin Mayalee | 1 | ?? | 2 | 18(14) | 2 | ?? | 2 | 21(16) | 3 | ?? | 2 | 24(19) | ? | ? | ? | ? |
Handgun: Mayalee Hit | 1 | ?? | 1 | 18(14) | 2 | ?? | 1 | 21(16) | 3 | ?? | 1 | 24(19) | ? | ? | ? | ? |
Crossbow: Yak-Zangenga | 1 | ?? | 1 | 12(9) | 2 | ?? | 2 | 18(14) | 3 | ?? | 3 | 20(16) | ? | ? | ? | ? |
Throwing Blade/Card: Kyumeisei-shiki | 1 | ?? | 2 | 28 | 2 | ?? | 3 | 32 | 3 | ?? | 3 | 36 | ? | ? | ? | ? |
Throwing Blade/Card: Masei-shiki | 1 | ?? | 2 | 10 | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ? | ? | ? | ? |
Machinegun: Mayalee Fury | - | ?? | 1 | 15(12) | - | ?? | 1 | 18(14) | - | ?? | 1 | 21(16) | ? | ? | ? | ? |
(Will obviously be expanded upon to include the new bullets but this is just a demonstration)
Weapon | Photon Art | PA Fragments | Effect |
---|---|---|---|
Killer Shot | 90 | Incapacitate Lv2-4 | |
Mayalee Shot | 50 | Sleep Lv2-4 | |
Barada Chamga | 25 | Charm Lv2-4 | |
Barada Maga | 60 | Lowers ATA/EVP Lv1-2 | |
Chousei-sou | 75 | Extra damage and range. Slow firing rate. | |
Masei-sou | 75 | Knockdown and Stun Lv1-2 | |
Boma Duranga | 50 | Berserk | |
Boma Maga | 90 | Hits 1-3 targets. 100% freeze | |
Phantasm Prism | 25 | Sleep Lv2 | |
Mayalee Prism | 90 | Blow away (Knockback) | |
Twin Penetration | 90 | Hits multiple enemies at once with penetrating bullets | |
Twin Mayalee | 60 | Lower DFP Lv1-2 | |
Penetrating Hit | 90 | Hits multiple enemies at once with a penetrating bullet | |
Mayalee Hit | 60 | HP steal. Hits two targets | |
Yak Zagenga | 75 | HP affects damage, Lv1-3 Lower HP = higher damage. | |
Yak Maga | 60 | Lowers ATP Lv1-3 | |
Kyumeisei-shiki | 60 | HP steal Lv1-3 | |
Masei-shiki | 60 | Lowers DFP Lv1-3 | |
Mayalee Fury | 75 | Launch |
Without
Weapon | Effect | ||||||||||||||||
SE Lv. | Rng(m) | NoB | PP | SE Lv. | Rng(m) | NoB | PP | SE Lv. | Rng(m) | NoB | PP | SE Lv. | Rng(m) | NoB | PP | ||
Rifle: Killer Shot | 2 | ?? | 1 | 32(25) | 3 | ?? | 1 | 40(32) | 4 | ?? | 1 | 48(38) | ? | ? | ? | ? | May incapacitate. |
Shotgun: Barada Maga | 1 | ?? | 3 | 18(14) | 1 | ?? | 4 | 24(19) | 2 | ?? | 5 | 30(24) | ? | ? | ? | ? | Inflicts EVP/ATA down. |
Longbow: Chousei-Sou | - | ?? | 1 | 12 | - | ?? | 1 | 15 | - | ?? | 1 | 18 | ? | ? | ? | ? | Extra damage, slower firing rate. |
Grenade Launcher: Boma Maga | 1 | 9 | 1 | 90(72) | 1 | 9 | 1 | 120(96) | 1 | 9 | 1 | 150(120) | ? | ? | ? | ? | Hits 1-3. 100% freeze. |
Laser Cannon: Mayalee Prism | - | ?? | 1 | 36(28) | - | ?? | 1 | 42(33) | - | ?? | 1 | 48(38) | ? | ? | ? | ? | Blow away (Knockback). |
Twin Handgun: Twin Mayalee | 1 | ?? | 2 | 18(14) | 2 | ?? | 2 | 21(16) | 3 | ?? | 2 | 24(19) | ? | ? | ? | ? | Inflicts DFP down. |
Handgun: Mayalee Hit | 1 | ?? | 1 | 18(14) | 2 | ?? | 1 | 21(16) | 3 | ?? | 1 | 24(19) | ? | ? | ? | ? | Hits two targets. Steals HP (7%, 11%, 15%). |
Crossbow: Yak-Zangenga | 1 | ?? | 1 | 12(9) | 2 | ?? | 2 | 18(14) | 3 | ?? | 3 | 20(16) | ? | ? | ? | ? | HP affects power. |
Throwing Blade/Card: Kyumeisei-shiki | 1 | ?? | 2 | 28 | 2 | ?? | 3 | 32 | 3 | ?? | 3 | 36 | ? | ? | ? | ? | Steals HP. |
Throwing Blade/Card: Masei-shiki | 1 | ?? | 2 | 10 | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ?? | ? | ? | ? | ? | Def Down. |
Machinegun: Mayalee Fury | - | ?? | 1 | 15(12) | - | ?? | 1 | 18(14) | - | ?? | 1 | 21(16) | ? | ? | ? | ? | Launch |